Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/02/1998 09:06 AM Senate HES

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               SCR 11 - LONG-TERM CARE TASK FORCE                              
                                                                               
SENATOR BERT SHARP, sponsor of SCR 11, gave the following overview             
of the measure.  As Alaska's senior citizen community continues to             
increase in size, the state needs to plan for the long term care               
and needs of these citizens.  While most families desire to provide            
home care for their elderly parents, the reality is that most will             
live in a long term care facility sooner or later.  Either way, the            
cost of providing long term care is becoming insurmountable to the             
state and to private citizens.  In an effort to assure that                    
Alaska's senior citizens can plan and get the best care possible,              
the Legislature established a working group in 1996 to analyze long            
term care services available in the state and the projected costs              
of such care.  SCR 11 will create a long term care task force to               
review the working group's findings and to develop equitable plans             
for providing actuarially sound and affordable long term care                  
options for all senior citizens.  He urged committee members to                
support SCR 11 so that the dialogue to find the answers to the long            
term care needs of senior citizens within the State of Alaska will             
continue.                                                                      
                                                                               
SENATOR WARD stated the task force will be comprised of four                   
majority members, two minority members, and six non-elected                    
members.  He expressed concern that this task force will be making             
recommendations to the Legislature, yet because of its make-up,                
might not adequately reflect the views of the majority of the                  
Legislature.  He asked Senator Sharp if he thought the composition             
of the task force could be a problem.                                          
                                                                               
SENATOR SHARP said he thinks this particular topic lends itself                
more toward common ground than most.  He explained the task force              
is designed to determine options and their costs to individuals and            
group plans, and not to dictate a specific course of action.  The              
task force will establish what the need for, and marketplace is,               
for long term care. He thought representatives from the various                
commissioners' offices will add expertise in their particular                  
fields and will not control the direction or the outcome of the                
task force's work because the need is universal.                               
                                                                               
SENATOR WARD maintained that although the task force will be                   
working on a common goal, the resolution directs it to submit                  
proposed legislation.  He repeated his concern that the task force             
will have eight non-majority members.                                          
                                                                               
Number 137                                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN noted he only had one copy of the work group's                 
report which he offered to pass around to committee members. He                
then took testimony from participants on the teleconference                    
network.                                                                       
                                                                               
BOB HUFMAN, a Fairbanks resident, testified in favor of SCR 11                 
because establishing an actuarially sound system of long term care             
for senior citizens is an admirable goal.  In checking over a                  
number of long term care policies offered by several underwriters,             
he found they all fell short of what is truly required in the way              
of benefit needs and costs.  Judging from what is available on the             
market today, the state could devise an adequate plan that may be              
an attractive proposal to middle-aged people whose participation               
would help balance out the payment schedule.  The results of the               
McDowell Group report show the tremendous impact the cost of                   
supporting residents in the Pioneer Homes will have on the state               
budget as the rates rise to the full cost of care by the year 2003.            
The cost of state monetary assistance will rise from $1,408,000 in             
1997 to over $15,800,000 in 2003.  That figure alone justifies                 
underwriting a long term care policy, either by the state alone or             
in concert with a reputable company.  Alaskans desperately need                
assistance with this monumental problem.  He urged formation of the            
task force as soon as possible.                                                
                                                                               
MERRILL HAKALA testified from Fairbanks and thanked Senator Sharp              
for introducing SCR 11.  She believes SCR 11 is very important to              
senior citizens of the state because the cost of Pioneers' Homes is            
increasing dramatically.  Most seniors enter Pioneers' Homes with              
a few dollars in the bank, but are wiped out once they enter long              
term care.  The dignity of senior citizens needs to be preserved.              
                                                                               
FLOYD HEIMBUCH, Executive Director of the Older Persons Action                 
Group (OPAG), testified from Anchorage on his own behalf.  He                  
stated the Anchorage Advisory Commission is undertaking a study on             
this subject and it intends to produce a study without the bias                
that a funding corporation or entity might build into it.  He hoped            
a new task force will be careful when determining the focus of the             
plan and who is working on the plan.  The following areas of                   
concern are basic to what senior citizens are thinking about:                  
mental health; access; finding an acceptable institution when one              
needs help; physical activity; secure surroundings; financial                  
problems; at-home family care; and consumer protection.  He                    
encouraged the task force to use the Alaska Commission on Aging's              
information effort, OPAG's publication Voices, and senior center               
newsletters to focus on what is available now, rather than on what             
will be available after the plan is made.  Mr. Heimbuch concluded              
that people are living longer and we are using outdated concepts to            
deal with their needs.  He suggested looking at a plan that will               
allow people to "bank" volunteer services, while they are able, to             
be applied toward the cost of long term care in the future.                    
                                                                               
MS. DULCE NOBLE, Executive Director of the Alzheimer's Association,            
spoke in support of SCR 11. The work group's studies resulted in an            
analysis of the current long term care system.  The group                      
determined the strengths of the current system and  the challenges             
that lie ahead.  The creation of a task force is essential to                  
implement some of the group's recommendations.  Because of                     
demographic trends, the number of seniors in need of help in 10 to             
15 years will increase, and many caregivers will be feeling the                
impact.  The task force will need to create an infrastructure to               
address these needs.                                                           
                                                                               
Number 276                                                                     
                                                                               
KAY BRANCH, Bristol Bay Native Association (BBNA) Elderly Services             
Manager, and a board member of the Alzheimer's Association, stated             
she is familiar with the long term care needs of people in rural               
areas and supports SCR 11.  She believes it is important to take               
the analysis that was recently completed and convert it into an                
equitable plan.  The costs of long term care are exceedingly high.             
BBNA received money from the Division of Senior Services to conduct            
its own research on the need for assisted living in the Dillingham             
area.  At present there are no nursing homes or assisted living                
facilities.  BBNA held seven community forums throughout the                   
region:  the sizeable attendance at all meetings was indicative of             
the strong concern people have about ensuring that their elders are            
cared for in the best way possible.  In those areas, people want               
their elders to remain as close to home as possible.  When families            
cannot care for their elderly relatives at home they have to send              
them to long term care facilities in Anchorage and Fairbanks.  She             
suggested that a rural Alaskan who is familiar with senior issues              
be appointed to the task force if SCR 11 passes.                               
                                                                               
KATHLEEN DALTON testified on her own behalf from Fairbanks.  She is            
a conservator-guardian for an 82 year old woman who is in an                   
assisted living facility.  She expressed concern that SCR 11 may be            
redundant and she questioned where the funds for activities of the             
task force will come from.  In addition, she asked that no                     
commissioners or designees be appointed to the task force because              
those people represent the bureaucracy and will provide no original            
thinking. She suggested using people in those positions as                     
resources.  She requested a copy of the McDowell Group report.                 
                                                                               
Number 350                                                                     
                                                                               
DON HOOVER testified as a member of the Alaska Commission on Aging,            
and on his own behalf, in support of SCR 11.  He said SCR 11 does              
not only apply to the elderly, but to people of all ages who need              
long term care.  Alaska rates second highest in the nation in the              
increase in the number of senior citizens.  Growth projections                 
indicate that the population of people 65 and older by the year                
2015 will be 80,957.  About one-third of those people will be in               
the 80 to 85 year old age group; over 48 percent of those will have            
Alzheimer's disease which requires long term care.  He expressed               
concern that SCR 11 requires the task force to complete its work               
between legislative sessions which will not provide enough time.               
                                                                               
FLORENCE ORR, representing the Igloo and Womens' Auxiliary of the              
Pioneers in Anchorage, the National Association of Retired Federal             
Employees, and the Anchorage Senior Center, testified from                     
Anchorage.  Ms. Orr said as a person in her late 80's she is very              
personally interested in SCR 11. Most of her contemporaries are                
recognizing that they cannot get along alone anymore and some are              
panicking about where to go.                                                   
                                                                               
FRANK APPEL, representing the Alzheimers Association Board,                    
testified in support of SCR 11 and made the following comments.                
Because the elderly population is likely to increase enormously in             
the next 20 years, it is important to build upon the analysis                  
completed by the working group.  The state will likely experience              
costs for those people with insufficient assets or income to pay               
for long term care.  The state needs to create a plan to provide               
funding for effective, efficient, and equitable long term care.                
                                                                               
FRANK McGILVARY thanked Senators Sharp and Duncan for introducing              
SCR 11 and expressed support for the measure.                                  
                                                                               
JOHN HANCHETT testified on his own behalf from Fairbanks in support            
of SCR 11.  He noted he is a member of the Alzheimers Association,             
an insurance agent, and has taken care of seniors for 23 years, so             
is familiar with this issue from a variety of perspectives.  He                
believes the long term care issue is a problem for the current                 
population of senior citizens but will be moreso for the next                  
generation.  Besides coming up with alternatives, the task force               
can give this issue the publicity and attention it needs to get the            
public to react.                                                               
                                                                               
BOB HANSEN, testifying from Fairbanks, informed committee members              
he has provided care for his aging mother for many years.  He                  
stated the cost of residency in a Pioneer Home is becoming                     
outrageous and unaffordable for most people.  Some seniors have had            
to move out because of the cost.  He believes that is a disgraceful            
thing to do to pioneers.                                                       
                                                                               
ED BARBER JR., representing himself, testified from Anchorage and              
made the following comments.  There are many perceived, as well as             
actual, problems involved in addressing the long term care of                  
senior citizens.  He recommended greater emphasis be placed on the             
membership of the task force so that there is more representation              
by senior groups and less from the bureaucracy.  He commended the              
drafters of SCR 11 for including a sunset clause and noted his                 
support of the resolution.                                                     
                                                                               
Number 474                                                                     
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN stated he appreciated the comments about appointing              
more senior citizens to the task force.  He said he thinks it is               
important to get other input, but maybe in an ex-officio capacity.             
                                                                               
BETTY HUFMAN testified from Fairbanks in support of SCR 11.  She               
believes this resolution will have an impact on all Alaskans                   
because a lot of young people are caring for elderly relatives.                
Facilities are not only lacking but are also inadequate, and there             
is a crying need for assisted living homes for people who do not               
need full-scale nursing homes.  She believes the committee should              
consist of a broader cross-section of the population, and the time             
limit should be extended.                                                      
                                                                               
MARIE DARLIN, representing the Alaska Federation of the National               
Association of Retired Federal Employees (AFNARFE), stated at its              
last convention, AFNARFE passed a resolution in support of SCR 11.             
AFNARFE's constituency consists of seniors, and those who are not              
yet seniors but are caring for parents and/or children in need of              
long term care.  AFNARFE is concerned that recommendations put                 
forth by the working group be acted upon and that policies and a               
plan be established to meet the reported needs.  She noted she will            
give committee members copies of the Alaska Commission on Aging's              
latest bulletin which contains updated information on the future               
demographics of Alaska's senior population.  AFNARFE is glad to see            
this issue is going to get some attention.                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked Ms. Darlin if she is familiar with a report              
put out in the last year by a commission headed by Amos Alder.  MS.            
DARLIN was not aware of it.  CHAIRMAN WILKEN said he was interested            
to hear what people think of that report.                                      
                                                                               
Number 542                                                                     
                                                                               
VERA GAZAWAY, representing OPAG,  stated OPAG has viewed long term             
care as an inter-generational issue for the reasons previously                 
mentioned.  OPAG believes more training and access for home                    
caregivers for people with long term illnesses needs to be provided            
with state funds.  For a number of years, OPAG has endorsed the                
need for in-home health care and actually had training programs for            
in-home health care but many of the trainees eventually went to                
work for hospitals. Also, she noted there is a need for more                   
respite care.  One day per week of respite care is a great help to             
full-time caregivers.                                                          
                                                                               
LARRAINE DERR, representing the State Hospital and Nursing Home                
Association, stated the number one goal of the long term care                  
committee is the formation of a long term care task force to                   
address long term care problems in the state.  The committee has               
been reviewing reports over the last few years and has realized                
that little progress has been made in this area.  The committee has            
a task force appointment scheduled and is willing to offer its                 
support to the task force in SCR 11 in any way it can.  The group              
is definitely in favor of the resolution.                                      
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN suggested holding the resolution until the next                  
meeting to restructure the make-up of the task force and update the            
time-frame during which it will operate.                                       
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN announced SCR 11 will be held in committee until               
the following Wednesday.                                                       

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